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Draft No. 1 - Dutch 1(NL) Corps List

on Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:15 am
Hi Guys

Here is my first draft Dutch 1(NL) Corps List.  It's a no frills version with no pics and no glossary.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=10xwInQhtBi3AKyQxGE9K8z2K_oitS7Er

Looking forward to feedback, corrections, things I've left out or should not have included etc. I'm now working on the Dutch AFV Data Table.

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Re: Draft No. 1 - Dutch 1(NL) Corps List

on Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:34 pm
Lovely list. Only thing I'm missing is the M38A1C Tow jeep for recconaissance.

Really fired up now to get my Dutch out of storage and start finishing them.
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Re: Draft No. 1 - Dutch 1(NL) Corps List

on Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:29 am
Thanks for spotting that Johan. I found the TOW Jeep in orbat85.nl but it mentions it in relation to the Infantry Battalion of an Infantry Brigade - not in a recce unit. I was going to add it as a platoon support option for that Corps rear area infantry platoon - or do you still think it sits better in Recce?

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Re: Draft No. 1 - Dutch 1(NL) Corps List

on Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:49 am
Questions arising from putting together the AFVstats:

1. Is the YP-408 series amphibious?
2. Did the AMX-13/FL-15 have any night fighting system other than a White Light/Infrared Searchlight? I can't see any reference to stabilisation etc. Is that right?

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Re: Draft No. 1 - Dutch 1(NL) Corps List

on Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:02 am
1. Not amphibious
2. I'll get back to you on that.

Just stick it in the rear area platoon, maybe as an upgrade for X points from the RR version M38
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Re: Draft No. 1 - Dutch 1(NL) Corps List

on Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:39 pm
Thanks Johan. I've added the TOW armed M38A1 to the list.

Here's the next question for you. It appears that the M113 C&V with the 25mm autocannon did not have a co-axial machine-gun. Is that true?

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Re: Draft No. 1 - Dutch 1(NL) Corps List

on Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:03 am
Indeed no Coax. The 50 cal version did come with a FN-MAG, and was amphibious. With the 25mm turret on top, it gained submarine like qualities.

AMX-13 is the 105mm version with a coax MAG, has a FN-MAG on a pintle for the commander with a White Light, and a side turret mounted Infra red light for the main gun. It has the FL-12H turret though, and the system was phased out in 1983.
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Re: Draft No. 1 - Dutch 1(NL) Corps List

on Thu Mar 22, 2018 1:44 am
OK - great - thanks. I think I'll keep it in the list as it show's up in Isby's book on NATO and it's kinda cool in an old fashioned kind of way. Who doesn't like a 105mm gun on a tank with paper thin armour!

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Re: Draft No. 1 - Dutch 1(NL) Corps List

on Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:33 pm
Considering my Government either throws away brandnew stuff in a heartbeat of keeps old tat on stock waiting for the right buyer for ages, I would not be too surprised to find them in MOB complexes for quite a while. And you are costing me enough money as is as I now need to scout for 1-2 105mm AMX and some additional vehicles for my Territorials (aka Nationale Reserve)
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Re: Draft No. 1 - Dutch 1(NL) Corps List

on Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:42 pm
Well I do feel your pain. My problem is every time I do a new list I start planning how I'm going to do a force for that list... I'm just feeding my own addiction!

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Re: Draft No. 1 - Dutch 1(NL) Corps List

on Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:34 pm
The new Dutch List and Dutch AFV Data Table is up in the main thread. Please let me know what you think.

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Re: Draft No. 1 - Dutch 1(NL) Corps List

on Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:58 pm
Page 3-4 and 5 have M1 in the middle between the texts.

And you :
a) just motivated me even more to get my Dutch out
b) will make me harass SandS for the YP-408 they promised 4 years ago
c) cost me money
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Re: Draft No. 1 - Dutch 1(NL) Corps List

on Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:43 am
Hi Johan. That should be fixed now. Thanks for pointing it out.

a) Well I remember how good your Dutch looked from years ago - so I'm keen to see them out and in a playtest game.

b) Yes - harass Shaun and maybe he can put his YPR-765's back on the website

C) Sorry about that! Evil or Very Mad

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