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Daedalus
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:26 pm
Hey guys,

one quick question: Can i use the Honey's 37mm main gun as an autocannon for aimed fire with small arms & machine guns?
The reason for my question is this:

In the rulebook on page 28 they say that heavy autocannons (37mm and 40mm) have a rate of fire of 8. If i follow these sentences the Honey would be a quite good anti-infantry vehicle with good suppressive and aimed fire capabilities against infantry.
And now, let's talk about my problem: On page 131 under 'Canadian guns' the 37mm L53 isn't listed as an autocannon, but as a 'very light gun'. Only 20mm and 40mm Bofors are listed as autocannons.

So what do you think? Can i use it as an autocannon for fighting infantry or do i have do playe the Honey's gun as a quite weak 'normal' tank gun and use it's HE-Ammo with it's poor HE effect against infantry?

Best regards,
Daedalus
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OvS
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:46 pm
It's not an autocannon. The reloading system of the gun is different to autocannons and it was developed as an anti-tank gun. So, its only the poor gun you find in the "very light gun"-section of the rulebook.
The 40mm Bofors as an example was designed as an autocannon.
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Nino Kano
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:17 pm
The 37mm actually didn't have an HE round. It used a canister round (big ass shotgun) for anti-personnel. But, for game purposes the very light gun is a good representation for this.
Also it's not an AC due to the fact that it's ammo is individually load by the loader and not magazine or clip fed.
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Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:10 am
Actually the 37mm L/53 had two types of HE round, the M63 with 39 grams of TNT filler, and the Mk II with 27 grams - barely enough to blow your nose, but as stated above it also fired a very useful canister round with 122 steel balls which was extremely effective against personnel and broke up many Banzai charges in the Pacific
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Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:44 pm
I hope there is a rule for the M3's canister round in the Pacific book. They used it a LOT there. The Sherman had one as well but they found the bag often tore when loading so it was largely ineffective because of this.
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Nino Kano
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Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:40 pm
I stand corrected, I went back and looked at my resources and the 37mm did have HE rounds. Like what Stuart J stated. It just was not used much by the crews.

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Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:05 pm
As others noted, the 37mm gun of the Stuart is NOT an autocannon.
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