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Tau1850
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Join date : 2018-06-12

How do you come up with your army list

on Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:38 am
Today at work I was thinking up army list to try and play, units I have not used before, combination of unit types, trying something funny or odd. Then this caused me to ponder.

What makes a good army list? I have sat down and looked at different lists I have made. So far all have been fun to play and nothing seems to be "cheesy, OP, or broken".So, hats off to the creaters you guys did an awesome job.

Soy question to everyone is why and how do you come up with a list to play and what is normally your focus, having as many units possible, high BR, maxing all of one unit types, or just what ever looks fun?

Can't wait to hear from you all.

Oh and for me, I mostly try and theme my lists along with the mission type and when I use my armoured infantry division I always try and make them as mobile as possible.
Today I made a list, 500pts armoured infantry division that ended up at 499pts, 40 BR, with a total of 20 units.

Armoured infantry platoon, regular upgrade /w half tracks and a medic 187pts 19-r BR

Medium tank platoon w/ 76mm upgrade 144pts, 9BR

Light tank platoon 90pts 6 BR

Recon command platoon w/m20 utility car 34pts, 2BR

2x M-20 utility car, recon. 36pts 4BR.
weak on unit numbers, but strong on BR and extra orders. Will probably get crushed with no Arty support. But who knows.
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Makulator
Posts : 2
Join date : 2018-02-13
Age : 50
Location : Germany, Nürnberg

Re: How do you come up with your army list

on Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:46 am
I try to create a realistic looking army. My Bulge Volksgrenadiers get some Horsedrawn supplywagons....support from a STUG III or Hetzer Battery and some heavy mortars.
Sometimes i like to add an odd looking piece of equipment like some captured guns or a rare vehicle just for the looks of it and using a model which collects dust on the shelf Very Happy
Kirill_GV001
Posts : 13
Join date : 2018-05-07

Re: How do you come up with your army list

on Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:28 pm
Depends. Sometimes I'm planning an army that I'm historically interested in, such as a light tank-based Soviet Barbarossa list, sometimes something that looks cool, such as a late Cold War East German list (for BG:NORTHAG) in the country's 3-tone pattern, and sometimes I build lists based on... what's cheap in the local shop so that I don't have to order too much stuff online Embarassed
I don't get to play a lot because there are pretty much no other players where I live, so I can't really base my lists on gaming experience though.
JayM
Posts : 20
Join date : 2018-03-10

Re: How do you come up with your army list

on Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:23 am
I take historical TO&Es/Establishments as a start point and work from there. I'll use the book lists for a pickup game since they're quicker, but I don't give much of a bother about points other than to fit the squad/platoon/company sized game guidelines.

My most polite opinion of "lists" is that they're a tourney construct and should stay that way.
Tau1850
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Join date : 2018-06-12

Re: How do you come up with your army list

on Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:54 pm
My most polite opinion of "lists" is that they're a tourney construct and should stay that way.  

    I can totally understand this view. I think it would have been better to say "army" instead of list.

  I played 40k for 8 years and still have some of the lingo stuck in my head.
 I quit playing due to everyone wanting to make the next best winningest list. That one list to rule them all mentally. It ruined the fun of the game for me.

  BG, from what I can tell, doesn't have that issue. The game is so we'll designed that people can have fun with tactics and the chaos of the battlefield. That, as long as you follow the rules, there is no bad or OP armies.
 
This gives to so much freedom to have fun and to have a list that has an odd design, like 4 snipers or how many machiguns can I get on the table. Best of all you don't have the issue of having cool looking units that sit and collect dust because they are pointless to use in the game because of reasons.

   And for you guys that make your list from actual historical army units, hats off to you, that takes some research and learned knowledge. Much respect.
dead1
Posts : 50
Join date : 2018-02-13

Re: How do you come up with your army list

on Mon Jul 16, 2018 1:40 am
I either base it on a historical list or base it on the scenario we're playing.  Sometimes I theme it on a concept (e.g. mobile list, infantry heavy, armoured assault etc).  And sometimes it's just to include new models I've just completed.  Historical lists are often based on a generic OoB that was there.  We're playing squad to platoon level games so it's not like we're representing multiple battalions on the board. So if the battle involved an infantry division, the platoon won't have halftracks for infantry.   We always go for a core of an infantry platoon (even in squad games) - unless it's a specific scenario.  

Also even generic scenarios are played with a rough historical vibe if not battle in mind. So Germans facing US Airborne in 1944 aren't fielding Tigers or whatever.

I do try to collect "generic" forces first and then add flavour.  E.g. Germans get basic tanks/vehicles first (e.g. Panzer IVH for Normandy) and after I've collected enough of them, I add units that were  less common historically and that add flavour (e.g. Tiger tanks*).

*Used Germans as an example cause they're really easy to separate into core and uncommon or historical or not. Americans are very easy to collect as most of their core doesn't change much from 1944 onwards or even Italy v NW Europe much.
nickdives
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Join date : 2018-02-12

Re: How do you come up with your army list

on Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:38 pm
I work on a Battlegroup based on a historical scenario, or just from the points but based on a historical orbat. As for army list, I don't have enough figures and models to field an army!!
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sjb1001
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Join date : 2018-02-16

Re: How do you come up with your army list

on Tue Jul 17, 2018 4:50 pm
Nick - not far off it mate!
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Warwick
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Join date : 2018-02-12
Location : Derby, UK

Re: How do you come up with your army list

on Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:42 pm
You won;t go far wrong by collecting/painting a few basics, an infantry platoon, standard tank platoon, a few support weapons. That fit in just about anywhere. After that, branch out a bit. It's the way I do it... my 8th Army started as a infantry platoon, trucks, 6 Crusaders and 2 25 pdrs with tows... then build on that. For actual games,well mostly it comes down to the models I want to use... or haven't used in a while. There is no game-winning formula here... it what you do not what you take that matters most...
sediment
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Location : Chester, U.K.
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Re: How do you come up with your army list

on Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:31 pm
Funnily enough, that's pretty much what I started my 8th Army force with, although I enjoyed painting the infantry so much I finished up doing a company's worth. I did get side tracked with some Matildas, so still have to finish the Crusaders. Next to add some Valentines and Shermans to take them through to the Torch book.

Cheers, Andy
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