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Louis17
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Warsaw uprising

on Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:58 pm
Hello all,

Could someone tell me whether there is any resource available to play Warsaw uprising battles? If not, is someone using alternative resource? Or is there already something planned for the future?

Thanks in advance.
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wolflord
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Re: Warsaw uprising

on Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:40 pm
Do you mean historical resources or gaming resources?


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Louis17
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Re: Warsaw uprising

on Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:56 pm
I meant gaming resources of course...
NTM
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Re: Warsaw uprising

on Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:37 pm
I'd probably use the Partisan list from dispatches as the starting point for the Home Army. It can be found in the files section of the BG Facebook group.
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wolflord
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Re: Warsaw uprising

on Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:44 pm
Battlefront had once a PDF for the Armia Krajowa in Flames of War, but the PDF is no longer avaible as the list is now part of the "Red Bear revised" book. I never downloaded the PDF, but maybe someone on this forum has this PDF still on his computer.

For a conversion into Battlegroup the Partisan list from "Dispathes 1" (downloadable from Facebook) is invaluable.


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Louis17
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Re: Warsaw uprising

on Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:43 pm
Hello,

Thanks for the answer! In fact, I was not aware of a Facebook group (don't shoot at me please!) and even less of the files. Of great value!

As a matter of fact, I've got the AK pdf. Someone any idea on how I should translate to BG based on the partisan list?
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wolflord
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Re: Warsaw uprising

on Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:58 pm
i would use the Partisan platoon from the Dispatches for the AK Piechoty Company. Add a piat and MG42 to the platoon support options and make the guns and medium mortar Restricted.
For the Kedyw Company you could use the Soviet Motories Platoon from FotR. Drop the truck options and change the platoon support options to German ones and add a piat. Also add an option to equip one squad with a flamethrower. The Polish troops were very motivated, so you could think about a option to upgrade the platoon to Veteran. Should be something about 30-40 points and +3 BR.

For the other choices just look at the AK PDF what was avaible. but any tanks should be unique.


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Louis17
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Re: Warsaw uprising

on Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:12 pm
Hello Wolflord,

Thanks for the great advice. In fact I've been already pretty busy with trying to figure out a list based on the pdf. I already came out on the AK and Kedyw equivalents but did not think to change the rating from inexperienced to veteran. But It's true that the variable in BG is more about morale than military skill, isn't it? Still, maybe there is another way to translate the motivation into the list without upgrading to veteran, like e.g. adding some BR to the battlegroup. Feels like weird to me to field veteran partisans against regular Germans. Or am I missing something?
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OscarVictor
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Re: Warsaw uprising

on Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:55 am
If i may...
the Battlefront PDF was crap.. I still have it somewhere if you want.. the Warlord army list is horrible - as most of their list tbh..

I made some attempts some times ago, but to be honest, if you really want to play the Warsaw uprising, you have to be prepared to be crushed if you field a proper AK army.

Weapons and ammo restrictions

weapon availability table
2D10 weapon
11-13 Bren LMG
14-16 Browning wz 28
17-18 PIAT (1d6 ammunitions)
19-20 flamethrower
scrouging of weapons and ammunitions (part of the Polish ressources depended on this)
sewer movement ( A Wajda movie Kanal)


and the "germans" were not that bad either ..
Appart regular formations, made of Polizei and W-SS, you have to field the Dirlewanger and Kaminsky scums, plus some weird units, like azeri and the rest..

don't see how you can field Veterans,

Vehicles, there are decent Kubus available in 20mm (you just need one and for a short period of time)


the rest is widely available (civil vehicles and germans, ah yes one italian


My attempt is somewhere on my computer will have to dig it if you want.






one thing is sure, if you have time, patience, lots of rubbles and buildings,
warsaw uprising can be great in terms of gaming
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wolflord
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Re: Warsaw uprising

on Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:35 pm
The AK captured many German weapons, but of course on the long run they lacked the heavy weapons to resist the the German onslaught (the Germans even used the first available Sturmtiger tanks). But part of the German forces where Security troops which had dubios combat value and those suffered heavy casualities.

By the way, very nice models and terrain, OscarVictor. I like the Kubus very much. Cool
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